Phosban 150 hoses?

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  1. Saltyfishluver

    Saltyfishluver Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    my husband bought and set up a phosban 150 for our saltwater tank. He installs A/C units and used a brand new piece of black tubing instead of buying clear tubing from home depost. i think its radiator type hosing will that harm either my fish or my coral? Please someone let me know if its ok :confused:
     
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  3. AZDesertRat

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    Should be OK, its just something like 1/2" Inside Diameter vinyl tubing, black is probably better since it will not grow algae and nasties so bad since it will not get light inside.
     
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    Saltyfishluver Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    i don't think its vinyl i think its made of rubber like u would use for something in your car radiatior ( of course it was a new tube but still). i got up this morning have 3 dead fish and 2 not looking so good
     
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    OK, you are talking about the little 90 degree rubber elbows that stick on the nipples on the lid. They come stock with rubber so it should still be OK. I can't imagine they would contaminate a tank being as small as they are and rubber is rubber?
     
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    I believe she is referring to the tubing (not supplied) that is need from the pump to the reactor inlet, as well as from the reactor outlet back to the sump or tank.
     
  7. Saltyfishluver

    Saltyfishluver Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    yea thats what i am talking about one is about 2 feet long the other is 6 inches long. we did a water change this morning and tonite. i added carbon to get rid of any toxicity. the nitrates are still 40 - 80. no ammonia and no nitrites. No more fish have died but they don't look the greatest. my puffer is not eating and breathing alittle heavy . Man i feel so guilty. i may have killed all my poor fish. :cry: i hope there are not any dead guys tomorrow i don't know what else to do :(
     
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    Looking back through your posts it looks like you juet set this tank up around the firts of May, thats only like 7 weeks ago.
    By your count it sounds like you had at least 5-7 fish in it already and its barely even gone through its initial cycle much less matured.

    I think you are going way too fast and are headed for disaster. Once you complete the initial cycle you still need to go very slowly and add inhabitants one at a time over a long period of time to allow the bacteria to multiply and adjust to the additional bioload. I don't keep 7 fish in a well established 7.5 year old 100 gallon reef system much less a 55 and it took me over 6 months to get the fish stocked where I felt comfortable. All good things take time in this hobby, the only things that happen quickly are bad.

    Why do you have a Phosban reactor already and how much media did you place in it? If you did things correctly it should only have 2 to 2.5 tablespoons or about 20-25 grams of media in the reactor to start with. Any more than that and you shock your system and mess with the pH. GFO or Phosban is somethhing nice to have and I run it 24/7 but only on estab lished systems that have been fed for some time and have measurable phosphates that need attention. Even then I only run 1/2 the recommended dose of 10 grams or 1 tablespoon full per 10 gallons. More is not better with GFO.

    If your fish have died, DO NOT replace them yet. Let the system mature and the bacteria colonize for several weeks while you observe the system and its inhabitants before adding one single fish and waiting a month or so before adding another and so on. I would never have more than 4 or 5 fish in a 55 and I stock them according to their full grown size so no large fish such as tangs, many puffers (puffers are a poor choice for a reef anyway since they munch on hard corals for a snack), triggers are similar to puffers, etc.

    If you don't need the reactor yet remove it, it may be doing more harm than good at this point.
    What do you have for substrate and rock? How about your skimmer and water movement? Whats the flow like through your sump if you have one? What is the temperature, pH and salinity? Have you been adding any supplements or additives besides RO/DI water and a good salt mix?
     
  10. Saltyfishluver

    Saltyfishluver Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    thanks for the help. I am moving to fast my stupid fault. And my stupid fault for listening to the lfs people. my salinity is 1.023, ph is 8.0,temp is 76-78. My fish are doing better. i am using R/O and salt mixture and doing water changes 2 times a week about 15 gallons at a time. i have fiji rock which is doing great i am getting a nice purplish color now on the rock and back of tank now. i have a skimmer in the back i change it daily. good water flow in the sump and i think pretty good flow in the tank also i don't believe i have an dead spots. I believe my tank finished cycling but not sure i had the brown algae on the sand about 2 weeks ago but it is gone now. when i started the tank i got about 25 gallons from a well established 200+ tank. i dont know if that helps cycle it faster thats what the lfs said but i could be wrong since they told me to get the phosban which has not been in the tank since this happened i don't want to put it back in now. I do know that the puffer is not good with the reef tank. I started the saltwater tank so that i could have a puffer but my husband wanted some coral in there i told him what could happen. so far he hasnt bothered anything but he is small still. we are planning on upgrading to 150 gallon tank so i will get that going when it looks like my puf needs more room i just don't have the space in my place for that size tank. planning on moving in 6 months or so. i have not been adding any supplements except for some food for some of the corals daily ( 1 tsp) If i need to change anything let me know. Again thanks for the help