Phosphate remover

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  1. chumslickjon

    chumslickjon Purple Spiny Lobster

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    I have some phosphate remover that the pet store had. He called it aluminum oxide? It's in the form of little white balls. I don't know what this stuff really is. Anyone use anything like it and can fill me in?
     
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    The "white ball" media, as you put it, is in fact an aluminum based media. Honestly, you're much better off with a iron based media (ie - GFO = granular ferric oxide). While the aluminum based medias do work, once they become saturated they continuously release/reabsorb phosphates. GFO will never release what it has absorbed.

    If you must use it, don't run it longer than 3-4 days before changing it.

    GFO can run continuously until it has exhausted it's capacity (4-8 weeks).
     
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    banthonyb71 Millepora

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    this is the same ingriedients in the Seacem Brand "Phosgaurd" according to them, it will not release hposphates back into the water....but just what THEY say.
     
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    AZDesertRat Giant Squid

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    ALL aluminum based media releases phosphates once it is saturated, there is no getting around it.
    Stick with an iron or ferric (GFO) based product. It works a little slower but does not release contaminants when exhausted.
     
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    chumslickjon Purple Spiny Lobster

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    Can I use GFO in a media bag in the sump? Thats the stuff thats in chemi-pure elite, right?
     
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    Yes you can but it will not be as efficient as in a reactor like the Phosban reactor which fluidizes the media. I run a spoon full along with some carbon in a bag in my modified AC500 refugium on my 16G nano and it does its job.
     
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    chumslickjon Purple Spiny Lobster

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    Thanks. I'll give it a shot. I think I've read that GFO can be run for 3 months at a time before changing it. Any truth to that claim?
     
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    Once the phosphate levels have dropped and you are doing a maintenance dose that may be true. Start with half the recommended dosage in the beginning, about 1 teaspoon or 5 grams for every 10 gallons of tank water, and change it often. Once phosphate levels start declining step up to the recommended dosage of 1 tablespoon or 10 grams for every 10 gallons of tank water and continue monitoring the phosphates with a giid test kit. Once it is in check it may last 3 months but it all depends on your water quality, how much and what you feed.
     
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    chumslickjon Purple Spiny Lobster

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    Yeah, I guess my question is more for a tank that doesn't have phosphate issues. I have a slight reading, but would like to have a product in place to prevent issue's before they happen. I'd rather just have a product I can keep in my sump and replace every three months, for peace of mind.
     
  12. banthonyb71

    banthonyb71 Millepora

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    btw, chemipure elite is just carbon and GFO mixed togther, however its in a ratio of like 90% carbon 10% GFO. I would just get pure GFO. You can probably get away with 3 months b4 changing GFO assuming phosphates are not consistenly being introduced into your tank via water and/or frozen food.