Phosphates And GFO Help

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  1. Weir_Head

    Weir_Head Skunk Shrimp

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    60G Tank
    Emperor 400 Power Filter
    Aquac Remora Pro Skimmer
    Around 1,500 gph of Power Heads

    Yesterday I got my water tested, everything was good except the Phosphates.
    They were .82

    So today I did about a 25% water change, and bought some GFO.

    I was planning on placing the GFO in a nylon sock thing, and putting it in the back of the Emperor 400.
    There's the Bio-Wheels, Empty grey cage/box for "Media", and the Carbon.

    I was going to place it where the empty grey media cage is. Would that me enough flow you think? I'm not sure where else I could put it.

    Also
    - I assume that putting the GFO in your tank is fish-safe? I have 3 fish and about 10 hermits.
    - I've read that additives, like dechlorinator can throw off the Skimmer, would something like GFO do the same thing?
    - Is the high phosphates a probable cause for a few spots of brown sand/algae?

    Here's where I'm talking about in the filter:

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    Thanks :thumb_up:
     
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  3. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    Weir head

    IME - GFO will certainly work when used in a HOB filter , but its less effective in one of those than it would be in a reactor - GFO tends to compact which means in that location water will run over and around it
    with a reactor the GFO is moving slightly and thus all surface areas are expossed to water and it becomes more efficient

    you can use it in that location, but IME it better to run a smaller QTY and change it more frequently which helps to maximise its efficiency

    Do you have corals? especially leather or toadstool type corals?
    if the answer is No - then I would look at Seachems Phosguard as a alternative to GFO for Phosphate removal
    this white aluminum bead does not compact when used in cannister or HOB filters and thus its more effective than GFO in that type of enviroment

    but leather corals sometimes react badly to aluminum based phosphate removers
    so stay with GFO if you do have these types of corals

    GFO - does not interefere with skimming IME - neither did Phosguard

    Steve
     
  4. Weir_Head

    Weir_Head Skunk Shrimp

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    I actually have 1 leather coral and a brown polyp, so I guess I'll stick with the GFO
     
  5. Weir_Head

    Weir_Head Skunk Shrimp

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    I'm sure the people at the store told me, but how often would you change the GFO out?
    I remember them saying to smash it up and kind of move it around daily, but should I change the entire amount out at some point?

    It came in like a long bag, and I used about 1/4 of it in the sock.
     
  6. steve wright

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    I change mine every 4 - 6 weeks
    phosphate levels are the key when deciding when to throw it away and add new

    measure the PO4 of the water that comes out of the cannister
    if its the same as the water in the main tank - its time to change it
    if its lower, then continue using until its the same

    Steve