Possible to add sea horse in my 60G tank

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  1. barbianj

    barbianj Hammer Head Shark

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    He already decided not to go that route, but I keep my SH with 4 Banghaii Cardinals, 2 Mandarins, a Leopard wrasse and 2 Dragonface Pipefish with ZERO issues. Except that the Leopard is chasing the female Mandarin. :p Go figure.
     
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  3. bvb-etf-luva

    bvb-etf-luva Banned

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    with the fish in his tank it would not be possible, especially a tang. cardinals and mandarins are fine tankmates for a seahorse as well as pipefish and leopards if you supervise the tank.
     
  4. barbianj

    barbianj Hammer Head Shark

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    I was only showing that there are some fish that are possible to keep with SH's after this incorrect statement. He has already decided not to pursue the option that was originally posted and wants to go from here:

     
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    bvb-etf-luva Banned

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    it is not reccomended for a first time seahorse keeper to keep them with anything other than other seahorses and pipefish, maybe a mandarin. a seahorse tank in a 30 gallon would be a great idea.
     
  6. alohaeveryone

    alohaeveryone Astrea Snail

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    Thanks everyone for the reply.

    So, after some study. I collected following info

    1. at least 30 gallon
    2. tall tank is better
    3. lower temp.
    4. possible some dead SPS for him to hold on
    5. pipe fish can be tankmate


    my question is can I use the same water source? The reason I am asking because I am planning to put the seahorse tank next to the 60 gallon tank and share the same sump. my sump has tons of algae make which the water super clean

    in that case it will become the same 78 degree temp., will that be ok?
    people keep saying the seahorse is messy, what is that mean?

    Thanks
     
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    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    sure i dont see why not
     
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  9. barbianj

    barbianj Hammer Head Shark

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    Some seahorses come from tropical waters, but the incidence of disease becomes greater with higher temps.

    When someone says "messy eater', it means that the person doing the feeding is messy. Seahorses don't follow frozen food very far, so if you feed them too much at a time, it sinks to the bottom. Whether you use a feeding tube or a dish, ALL uneaten food needs to be removed. It takes a little time and patience.
     
  10. rayjay

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    OK now, what you have described, CAN be done and HAS been done.
    However, many seahorses have been lost in the attempts to do so.
    I would recommend when starting out to just go with a single species seahorse with no tank mates and not connected to anything else other than maybe a refugium and sump. If you still have them after a year, then you can experiment with changes, but it's best to make one change at a time so you know if that change is working for you.
    While some have lucked in with mixing fish and indeed other seahorses or even pipefish, they are in the minority.
    My experiences with mixing have been bad and indeed have cost me the lives of seahorses and pipefish.
    If you attempt your described set up, you decrease your odds of success, with each additional species of fish from a different breeding source, and from possible bacterial intervention from elevated temperatures.
    It has been done though but you can't possibly know ahead of time, which seahorse is going to have the ability to resist the bacterial influences or the pathogens exposed to it from other species of fish be it pipefish, seahorses or any other fish.
    As for seahorses being messy eaters, that comes from a couple of things.
    First, they usually are VERY picky eaters, selecting only the best looking specimens (at least in their eyes) to snick up, leaving the remainder to decay and feed bacteria.
    Second, when the seahorse snicks up a piece of food, it gets mashed up, and as the water that is taken in with the food is passed out the gills, a foggy fine particulate passes with it, which is mashed food.
    It's like feeding frozen PE Mysis without rinsing it.
    Again, you degrade the water quality.
    Many have figured that their refugiums/sumps/filtration could handle the load of the seahorses, while a few others have had no problem. More still can succeed with extra husbandry, but IME, it's hard to keep up that extra husbandry and in time, when nothing is going wrong, some of us tend to slacken off until all of a sudden, it's too late and we loose the seahorses.
    78° has worked for some, but again, you increase the odds of failure with each rising degree in temperature.
    Even if you do everything keeping in mind the BEST possible chances of success, you can't guarantee that success, especially if you don't buy TRUE captive bred seahorses and instead by tank raised that sometimes have been sold as captive bred.
    While tank raised are definitely cheaper, the TRUE captive bred can be the cheaper route in the end as you generally don't have to replace as many.