Preparing to purchase new setup

Discussion in 'Filters, Pumps, etc..' started by Kelley11, Sep 10, 2009.

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  1. Kelley11

    Kelley11 Peppermint Shrimp

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    I am preparing to purchase a Oceanic BioCube 29 Gallon tank and I will also be adding an Oceanic 1/10 chiller which requires 200 flow rate. This is where my question comes in. What is the best way to bring water from the tank to the chiller and return it to the tank? I will not have a sump to start off and the room the aquarium is in gets quite hot at times. I thought about using a 405 fluval I have from an older tank setup that has a flow rate of 225 that I could use to pump water from the tank run through chiller, pull into fluval that I would fill with biomax and return to tank.

    Other items I am considering with initial purchase: Koralia Nano 240, Oceanic Biocube Mini UV Sterilizer, SR3 Protein Skimmer. I will primarily use tank for reef with 1-2 maroon clowns.

    I appreciate the feedback!
     
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  3. steve wright

    steve wright Super Moderator

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    Hi Kelley11

    moved your post to the filters, pumps, chillers section as the questions are more to do with how you set the tank up, than they are about the specific brand of set up

    this should now have released the post so that others can respond to it

    If it where me, I would not want a cannister filter controlling the flow through my chiller
    simply as they can suffer from restricted flow and chillers can burn out quickly if they dont get the required flow rate

    on a 29 gallon tank - with adequate live rock - 1.5 - 2lb per gallon (General, not hard and fast rule) comibined with decent flow and a skimmer - then the cannister filter is surplus to requirements in terms of biological filtration , but could have a very effective role to play in chemical filtration and house Carbon, Phosphate remover , Purigen etc

    having an independant water pump circulating water through the chiller is a better idea IMO

    Steve
     
  4. Kelley11

    Kelley11 Peppermint Shrimp

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    Thanks Steve, I appreciate the feedback and redirection on the boards! I have never done any kind of plumbing on a tank would it be difficult to plumb a line using an external pump to direct water into the chiller? What supplies would you recommend?
     
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    I couldn't agree more. In our massive reef tank equasions; the fewer variables the better. When you piggyback devices, if one fails, the dominoes start tumblin'. Especially with a chiller, which is a pricey piece of equipment, you can only begin to imagine how your chiller will burn out should a snail enter your fluval.

    Although many reefers use canister filters, IMO, they are perhaps better suited for other uses, rather than in marine reef tanks. They are pretty high maintenance, in that they must be removed, dismantled and cleaned often. Through experience I can tell you that any tank that becomes tedious will become neglected, and that would begin a whole different domino scenario.

    Unfortunately, I can't answer your question with surety--as I don't know if a chiller could be gravity fed via a siphon off the DT, and then returned via a non-submersible--but if I didn't have a sump, that's how I would try it first. I can't guarantee it'll work well, though, having never been withoutt a sump.

    Good luck, and hopefully a few board members who run chillers with no sump will chime in.

    :)
     
  6. steve wright

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    http://www.3reef.com/forums/coral-health/not-exactly-build-thread-but-68926.html

    all the answers and a great deal of entertainment can be found on this thread by Reef Sparky in relation to hooking up your chiller

    you just need to make adjustments to allow for the difference between your chiller size and Sparkys, and purchase suitable pump with correct flow rate

    lots of pictures, thats what makes the thread chosen really helpfull IMO

    Steve