Refuguims

Discussion in 'Refugium' started by Apophis924, Feb 9, 2003.

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  1. Apophis924

    Apophis924 Astrea Snail

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    I have a question on refugiums. Are they used to replace a skimmer? I know they are used for nutrient export But are they good for also removing organic waste that skimmers remove. Can you have them lit for 24/7 or do they require a dark period for the plants to function properly. Given the choice of a refugium or a skimmer which would you go with?
    Thanks in advance for the info.
     
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  3. karlas

    karlas Fire Goby

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    i would have a problem answering the refugium part because i dont have one. i use a skimmer but most people that use refugiums say they wouldnt go without one plus a lot of people actually use both. the skimmer takes undisolved organics out of the water where the refugium with plants, sand, critters takes nitrates out of the water, and makes a safe haven for the critters to multiply which makes live fish food. but me myself have not had any problems but i try to keep up on water changes at least once a week and i think that has a lot to do with success also. i do maby 10% a week.im kinda happy with the skimmer i went almost  a year without that :D lol  :D and still had no problems with regular water changes
     
  4. Matt Rogers

    Matt Rogers Kingfish

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    Everything I know about refugiums is posted here:

    http://www.3reef.com/refugiums.htm

    :)

    I would still use the skimmer at least occasionally. Helps keep the pH up I think and oxygen levels high amoung other things.

    Some don't though and say it's ok. Although I have noted a few going this route that have algae problems: cyano, etc..

    I lean towards keeping it.
     
  5. MacnReef

    MacnReef Fire Shrimp

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    Refugiums or Protein Skimmers! What a debate!

    I have been trying to decide myself which was better. I looked at many tanks and decided that I would go with a fuge instead of a protein skimmer. I had the fuge up and running for a couple of weeks and did not see much in the sand bed of the fuge! Altho, my macro was growing like crazy under the 24 hr lighting!

    Then I figured, in my nano. I only have a yellow watchman and a percula clown so why in the world do I need a fuge. I think that because fuges are on the up-roar everyone is using them. I really don't have enough fish in my tank to pull out all of the bristle worms, copepods or amphipods. So, I put a deep sand bed and caulerpa in between two baffles in my fuge and put my skimmer in my sump area!

    I will let everyone know how the tank does with them both on it!
     
  6. Matt Rogers

    Matt Rogers Kingfish

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    You have a great point about bioload Macnreef. I don't think a lot of people think about that sometimes. Glad to hear you added a skimmer (I am so biased! ;D ) I don't think it will hurt anyway.
     
  7. MacnReef

    MacnReef Fire Shrimp

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    yeah, I don't see how the skimmer can hurt! I think the way it is set-up NOW, I should start seeing some good results. Only time will tell!
     
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  9. Matt Rogers

    Matt Rogers Kingfish

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    Heck I think your tank looks good already!
     
  10. MacnReef

    MacnReef Fire Shrimp

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    Well THANX! [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]

    I just want to have some more corals in the tank, like clams and LPS.

    I just need to be patient and see how everything acts!
     
  11. Wrassman

    Wrassman Peppermint Shrimp

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    Hey all,

    As you can see from my signature, I run a 20g Sump/Refugium + Turbofloater 1000.  I feel that they are both necessary on my system because I carry a very heavy bio-load.  I love fish and corals and I like my tank full of both!  In order to do that, I need the filtration and oxygenation that the protien skimmer provides, plus I get the same thing from my refugium.  To me, it is a win/win situation.

    Edit: I just thought I'd add a picture of my sump/refugium to see if anyone wants to talk about it. ;D
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  12. ilovefish

    ilovefish Plankton

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    sorry but I dont know