Second guessing myself on a nem

Discussion in 'Inverts' started by Tavast, Mar 27, 2012.

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  1. Corailline

    Corailline Super Moderator

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    It is a dry heat, yeah right !
    Freezing as a humane means of euthanasia is a myth. Water turns into ice crystals and cell walls burst. Hate to be so blunt there are other more humane ways. An anemone is a GI tract with a primitive nervous system I doubt it suffered.

    Sounds like the owners of the LFS knows very little about anemones.

    Anemones do not eat Marine Snow nor the typical fish food.

    Do not feel too bad, lesson learned. You got bad advice from the LFS and you probably should have not done the impulse buy. Everyone has done the impulse buy mistake, a responsible hobbyist learns from that mistake.
     
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  3. pink4miss

    pink4miss Panda Puffer

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    Tavast you sound like a very caring person by not wanting the nem to suffer and the fact your bothered by this creature dying. if you want to get a anemone get a bubble they have a much much better survival rate.

    i for some reason can never get a long tentacle to survive.
     
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  4. Swisswiss

    Swisswiss Caribbean Reef Squid

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    +1 to what corailline said, it the worst way to let a fish go. also true nems dont die over night, this said a healthy nem does not act the way you said. you are right the first sign of good health is a solid grasp with its foot and a closed mouth.
    nems dont need to be fed per say, as they use photosynthosis for cell construction, though feeding does help.

    when did the LFS get the nems? im thinking he might have just got them and the nems was stressed from a double acclimating. also what type of nem was it? i only keep bubble tips as they are the hardiest types, all other nems require perfect water and in a smaller system thats harder to keep. how are your clowns? test your water and keep an eye on params to avoid damage do your other critters

    i know the guilt trip from making a potentially wrong decision, the nem did not sound healthy from what you described it (though she might have just been acclimating) but unless it was a bubble, tip and you have mint water condition it was a gonner to start with IMO.
     
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  5. Steve34

    Steve34 Feather Star

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    How old is your tank? What are the parameters?
     
  6. Tavast

    Tavast Bristle Worm

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    Thanks Corailline, that does make me feel a little better. What is the most humane way to euthenize SW critters? Just in case I need the info in the future. I really hate to see anything in pain, and hate even more to be the cause f it.
     
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    Tavast Bristle Worm

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    THanks Cosmo. I have read up on nems, I just didn't refresh my memory before I went since I didn't think we were looking for a nem. It's funny, even when you did research, ya always find out you didn't do enough research or maybe didn't have the right sources. I should know better than to do or buy ANYTHING before checking here first, and next time I will. Thanks :)
     
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  9. Tavast

    Tavast Bristle Worm

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    Thanks Swissmiss :) One of the two clowns died the very next day, the other is doing quite well and we replaced the one that died with one that had been with the other two at the LFS. I'm honestly beginning to wonder if I should try a different LFS simply because in the last several weeks their livestock just doesn't seem very healthy. I've had my tank running for about a year now, and up until recently I started buying from this LFS I NEVER had stuff die right away like that. In the last 3 weeks we've purchased 5 fish (for 2 seperate tanks) and 3 have died within 24 hours. My father-in-law purchased 4 from the same LFS during this time frame and 2 of them died. To me that says there's a problem with the shop since they were 3 different tanks and 3 different acclimation processes. (I take care of my tank, my BF takes care of his).
     
  10. DBOSHIBBY

    DBOSHIBBY Sleeper Shark

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    After coralines post I researched a little bit. I was under the impression freezing was the best but I was mistaken. Glad I know now.
    Looks like the most humane way is to put the fish in a container with tank water and a teaspoon of clove oil. That will put the fish to sleep. Then either place in another container of almost frozen water or simply cut off/smash the head (I personally couldn't do that)
     
  11. grinder37

    grinder37 Whip-Lash Squid

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    Tavast,i'd like to add that i'm sorry about my previous comment,it was completely intended in a joking manor (I have a little twisted sense of humor sometimes) but it was not intended to add to your guilt.It was just a live and learn type of situation that we've all been guilty of in one way or another and I apologize.
     
  12. FatBastad

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    Or you could NOT euthenize your critters in the first place.
    Then you won't have any regrets about playing Jack Kevorkian's stand-in.

    ...Clove oil is often used as an anesthesia; some puffer fish so owners sedate them and then cut their beek/teeth. (...or they could give them the proper diet in the first place to prevent it)

    There is nothing wrong with being compassionate. It just makes me shake my head sometimes as it seems the younger generations are becoming outlandishly over-compassionate. It seems the younger generation of boys are, well, will grow up and be adult boys. Adam Carolla is right - in 50 years we'll all be chicks. Men are a dying generation!