Strange Looking Cycle - Gurus' Needed

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  1. ALW

    ALW Sea Dragon

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    I started the system 3 weeks ago and this is what I used and how I did it:

    23 Gallons of Salt Water bought from a LFS
    40 lbs Live sand
    8 lbs Live Rock
    12 lbs base rock
    a big hand full of Cheatamorpa
    1 Gallon Carib Sea Mineral Mud
    and
    6 Live 3 inch shrimp from a local bait shop

    I fed the shrimp sand fleas and oysters. Approximately 1 to 1.5 ounces a day for past 1 week. Then I added 5 snails and about 12 - 15 crabs. I left it like that for another week. Still feeding the little f" ers. Then I added 2 damsels. I continued to feed the shrimp the same way and I have been feeding the damsels some flake food twice a day.

    These are my Parameters after all that:

    Salinity 1.0245
    Temp 76.5
    pH 7.8
    kH 9 (161)
    calcium 420
    phosphate 0

    Ammonia 0
    Nitrite 0
    Nitrate 5

    How Can this be? This looks like I have cycled in three weeks. Is it possible or am I getting fooled by something that I don't know about?
     
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  3. Airborneguy

    Airborneguy Flamingo Tongue

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    With the live rock, sand, and cheato... you very well may be cycled.
     
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  4. jcdillin

    jcdillin Spaghetti Worm

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    It's possible, but mine did the same thing. I still took it very slow and added one fish every 2 to 3 weeks. Now that the tank is 6 months old now is when I really feel like the tank is nice and stable. Before one simple thing would throw it off a bit.
     
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  5. GuitarMan89

    GuitarMan89 Giant Squid

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    I agree, you may be cycled. There is no set time for how long a cycle should take. It depends on many factors. I would, like jcdillin said take it slow. don't add too much now, maybe a small fish or two every 3-4 weeks to be on the safe side.
     
  6. ALW

    ALW Sea Dragon

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    I 100% agree in all aspects. That is why I am skeptical.

    One more thing - I have not had one organism die yet.

    15 crabs - 6 Shrimp - 5 snails and 2 Green Chromis.
     
  7. jcdillin

    jcdillin Spaghetti Worm

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    Well I had the same thing, I started with 2 damsels, 5 snails, 5 hermit crabs and I didnt lose a single one. I think most of that sucess came from the refugium though.
     
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  9. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    I beleive that the refug is whats keeping your NH3/4, No2and No3 at zero, but dont be surprised if you do see a change soon. Plz keep in mind that the cycling period CAN last up to 12 weeks, your still at week 3. I would recommend not to add anything else and test and wait until the levels stay the same. Im still very skeptical about your 3 week cycle period. Luna
     
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  10. ALW

    ALW Sea Dragon

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    Luna,
    I am as skeptical as you. It was noteworthy and interesting and that is why I posted it. I am adding nothing more for about 0- 3months. The organisms in there are my cycle organisms.
     
  11. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    Good luck and keep us posted ALW. Luna
     
  12. ALW

    ALW Sea Dragon

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    I had an algae bloom - both micro and macro. I did my tests last night -

    pH 8.0
    Ammonia 0
    Nitrite 0
    Nitrate 0
    Phos 0
    Kh 9 (167)
    Calcium 400

    Temperature is 76-77

    What do you think