Suggestions 4 turning sand over

Discussion in 'Inverts' started by gamma, Apr 29, 2004.

to remove this notice and enjoy 3reef content with less ads. 3reef membership is free.

  1. gamma

    gamma Spaghetti Worm

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    190
    Location:
    Irvine, CA,California
    I wanted to know first of all if it's beneficial to have inverts that turn the sand over? If so what are some good ones to get?

    Right now for a cleaning crew I have 10 turbos & 10 red legged hermits.

    My lfs recommended a horseshoe crab, but they look too big and they're kinda ugly IMO. Anything else I can get?
     
  2. Click Here!

  3. reefman_MC

    reefman_MC Aiptasia Anemone

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2004
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    , SC,South_Carolina
    Don't get a horseshoe crab. They get too big and are just too bulky. Get a cucumber or a sand sifting star. Sand sifting stars can eat your micro fauna in your sand, but I have one. I needed something to stir the sand a little so I took my chances. Also get some nassarius snails. They will stir in your sand while hunting for detritus.
     
  4. gamma

    gamma Spaghetti Worm

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    190
    Location:
    Irvine, CA,California
    I take it that you don't want your micro fauna to be eaten? How many nassarius snails would you suggest w/ what I currently have?
     
  5. JOER0178

    JOER0178 Peppermint Shrimp

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2003
    Messages:
    438
    Location:
    STATEN ISLAND, NY,New_York
    nassarius snails are pretty small so you can get a bunch, there fun to watch too. i have a sand sifter as well he does a good job
     
  6. Speedy

    Speedy Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2003
    Messages:
    337
    Location:
    Miami, FL,Florida
    Sand sifter stars are cool. They are work-aholics. I also know that some conchs tend to move the sand around some.

    The creatures that best turn your sand are the horseshoe crabs. They can be purchased as small as a quarter.They dissappear in your sand bed and are only seen again when they die. Which they will. This subject has been discussed before. They only walk forward using the glass walls and rock the turn them. They tend to get stuck under rocks and die within a short time.

    Some say that diamond gobies and tiger gobies do a good job at moving the sand a bit. However, they are carniverous, they sift looking for worms, pods, and other creatures you might want to keep.
     
  7. gamma

    gamma Spaghetti Worm

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    Messages:
    190
    Location:
    Irvine, CA,California
    What about sea cucumbers? I've heard they do a good job at turning sand, but I've also read that there might be a possiblity of having toxins in the water if/when they die.
     
  8. Click Here!

  9. hottielover14

    hottielover14 Torch Coral

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2004
    Messages:
    1,167
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA,Washington
    i love Nass. snails the best but also I like sand shifiting star.
     
  10. Craig Manoukian

    Craig Manoukian Giant Squid

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2002
    Messages:
    3,330
    Location:
    Marina del Rey, California
    I have 25 large Nassaurius snails in my 80 gallon 7 in my 20 gallon and 4 in my refugium. Best sand stirrers in the business IMHO.
     
  11. Rick_Newton

    Rick_Newton Plankton

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2004
    Messages:
    22
    Location:
    Hutchinson, KS,Kansas
    At what stage of the tank should you add the Nassaurius snails? Also when should you add other critters? Thinking about a package from IPS.

    Thanks
     
  12. Craig Manoukian

    Craig Manoukian Giant Squid

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2002
    Messages:
    3,330
    Location:
    Marina del Rey, California
    They are basically detrivores so as long as you have sufficient detritous from fish and other inverts, they won't starve.