Sump + Wet/Dry together

I, for one, am one hundred percent certain that skimmers do not skim everything that goes through them. They are very efficient, but they do let a good amount of large items slip through. This is my whole reasoning of having the skimmer feed the fuge. My tank is not a drilled, and everything is HOB.

 

Thank you, got it as picture now . Quite busy until Labour day, will try after that weekend.

 

exactly, thats my point as well. all that comes out of skimmer is not 100% filtered. Now I got someone to support my idea of skimmer feeding fuge

 

Just thought of sharing this as wel. I like idea of having corner box for water inflow, instead having separate section. this will provide more space for fuge, planning to try it.

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Nobody ever claimed skimmers remove everything... skimmers remove hydrophobic DOC, and they can remove 98% of them... skimmers are not a once through filter... skimmers run though the day and filter the tank many times over... So a particle makes it through the skimmer... that is not enough to feed a fuge and a population of pods you are trying to support.


For a fuge to run best you want to give it raw water from the tank....o don't need the wet/dry if you have enough live rock and a good skimmer. Yes you can run both, but no real point... a fuge for pod production is good... if you are planning to put macro algae in it then you really don't need the W/D because it is just another bio filter in a system full of too many bio filters.

You HAVE to join the two by bulkheads because their is no way you can match the output of the skimmer to the out put of the return pump.

 

Yes, you are right. After 414-242 posted, I understand skimmer output won't match return pump and definetely need bulkhead to be installed so argument of only skimmer output for pods enough or not ends now

below reasons why I am not getting rid of W/D for now being:

1. It's running for more than 5 years with no cleaning, so not sure how much beneficial bacterias residing. i am afraid removing it immediately by replacing with sump might cause imbalance in parameters.

2. My stand dont have space to keep anything more than 10 gallon tank without removing W/D. I cant remove W/D now for above reason, so want to use W/D to hold skimmer and some rubble LR, so that I can use more space on sump for DSP with macro algae.

finally didn't they say macroalgae like chaeto will remove nitrates which W/D can't do, otherwise why I need fuge?

I am planning to run this setup[both W/D/fuge] for say 3 -6 months to make sure nothing changed and slowly get rid of W/D.

 

The argument still stands.... while you are not putting skimmer out put directly... you are still filter with W/D and then skimming and then passing that filtered water on to the fuge... way to clean of water for a fuge. Can you do it... sure, is it the best way to run a fuge, no... if you want to go through the trouble of running a fuge, then you might as well make it work well.

You don't rip out the W/D... you start removing balls... a hand full a week, till they are gone... W/D is now gone. Remove the HOB filter first.. you don't need it. You will have a sump for carbon. If you have not cleaned your bio balls in 5 years you have problems even if you don't know it.

Now you use the space for a fuge.... still is not perfect... you may skim out some pods... but better than the other way. Do not put LR rubble in there... waste of space and will only trap detritus and still need to be cleaned... same problems as the bio balls.....

W/D are not configured right for fuges and sumps... it can be done with some, but not quite right.... just take it out make a regular sump/fuge and be done.... or try to modify what you have... you could possible make the W/D work, or add on another tank like you want for the fuge part, it just makes some problems.

you lost me on the macroalgae comment... perhaps I confused you first.

 

so basically I need to get rid of everything and replace with fuge. let me see if I can get 30 gallon long thats fits on my stand.

what things to keep in fuge, DSB with macroalgae alone enough or add some live rock too?

 

Read my article in my sig on sumps filters and fuges and you will have a better idea what I'm talking about and the reasons I am talking about them.

First off... what is the size of your system and how much live rock do you have?

 

80 gallon bowfront...50lbs LR and 60lbs base/lace rock. Here's video if you want to check