Thhinking bout going barebottom.. Lets talk bout it??

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  1. Corailline

    Corailline Super Moderator

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    My next set up will be BB.

    If you consider the fish and inverts that will work with a BB before making the decision or the commitment, you probably save your self a a lot of frustration.

    In that large of a tank it's a commitment. Basically if you want to give it a go, I would. It's a lot hardier to remove sand than add it.

    With that said I wonder if BB is an acquired taste. I know people that go ewww you see the bottom and the support/stand. Yes, true but coralline and what ever corals you choose to let encrust make a nice look it you give it enough time.

    Matt I believe has done some BB with cutting board material. Look at the thread if you can.

    As far as how it impacts a system, with regard to biological filtration, any reduction in available anaerobic environment provided by a deeper sand bed can be made up with via a sump or even just adequate LR. With all the alternatives like mediums/substrates like biopellets available today I would definitely give a go.
     
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  3. saints fan 420

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    U should be queen of 3reef. U have my first vote. Thus the answer I'm looking for. So I'm gonna have to give the wrasses a second thought. My live rock is around 100-175 pounds. Some can go in sump and display.

    Ok. So I've made my mind up going barebottom. Now with matts barebottom he has done the cutting board. I like that idea. What do others do far placing rocks directly on the tank bottom do
     
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  4. elweshomayor

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    I've seen a tank that curt showed to me ( cant remember the website) that has sand only on visible spots of the tank and the rest is BB.
    He has just enough sand to give a more natural look to it. It is a very very thin layer of sand so cleaning isn't an issue.
     
  5. Blue Falcon

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    How awesome would it be to have the entire glass bottom encrusted with GSP. Like a grassy lawn. lol
     
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    Ideas ideas ideas. Love them
     
  7. inwall75

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    No matter how well you design the flow, there will always be one spot where detritus will collect. However, it is quite easy to suck that out.
     
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  9. m2434

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    BB tanks can be great, for SPS systems IMO. LPS corals, soft corals and nems won't always appreciate the extra flow needed to keep the bottom clean. I tried one once and even with the flow about 67x the tank volume (3 hydors and a return pump in a 29g), there was still detritus and "sand" (probably precipitation and debris from the rocks) settling all over the bottom. It was actually kind of a PITA to keep clean. I kept it about 6 months then added sand.

    Also, there was always live stock I wanted to keep that I couldn't. For example, jawfish, some gobies, LTAs etc... all need sand. Also you do loose some infauna, although there can still be a fair amount on the rocks. So, for me it didn't last long and I have no desire to try again. I really didn't see a benefit for a mixed reef and I wouldn't want anything else for my own tank.

    Currently I use "medium" grain sand. It can handle pretty much as much flow as you can throw at it and with a good cleanup crew and MP-40 I have not had any detritus or algae issues (less so then when I ran barebottom). Everyone has their own preference though, I think a BB is great for some tanks though. I'm just a mixed reef guy, if you want 100% SPS, and your corals can handle 100x flow or so, or if you just like the clean look and don't mind cleaning the bottom a lot, with less flow, then go for it. They can certainly work and people do great things with them, just depends if you think it accomplishes your goals better.
     
  10. Servillius

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    I will never go back. BB has revolutionized my ability to maintain a healthy environment. I agree it limits your fish choice a little, but as cool as some wrasses are, I can live with it. In exchange, I can keep a clean, healthy reef.

    My latest experiment is using travertine tile (unfinished) to make a bottom cover. I experimented with it a little in my tank as a backing and my wife decided it was the perfect substrate. It looks great.
     
  11. FaceOfDeceit

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    While I like the idea of BB (and no, I have not tried it), it would really hamper my next tanks inhabitants. I am doing a wrasse dominated mixed reef, and out of the 14 fish I plan to keep, 9 are "not suggested" in a BB environment. :( I'll be using good old sand for that tank. Maybe a BB in my 29 I am using right now for my "transfer tank." Plus, the wife loves watching the "zombies" rise when I feed (nassarius snails). Anyone know what those snails do in a BB tank?
     
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    I know Matt used a different site, but this one is a lot cheaper.

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