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  1. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    Thanks for the response Tangster, much appreciated. Luna
     
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  3. wildreef

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    vertical would be the prefered method, if laid on the side air would have (02)
    a chance to acumalate in the cylinder.

    and making one is as simple as 1,2,3 proper glueing of course provides a water tight seal.

    I can make you one luna ant free of charge , its the cheapest thing , if you wish.
     
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    Wildreef, Seriously... Do you READ ANTHING, or do you just like to talk? :eek:
    Luna just said above that he already has one built!!! ;)
     
  5. geekdafied

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    How long have you had a PH problem? With you being in Miami, Im sure its hot and sticky there so you're keeping your house air tight and got the AC running full blast, which causes CO2 buildup in your house, thus cause your ph to drop. Thats a very common thing for people who live in the south. I keep a window open with a fan blowing out.
     
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  6. lunatik_69

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    Hey Geek, I placed a air pump(2 chambers) outside for 4 weeks pumping in outside air. One attached to the skimmer and the other was in the sump with an air stone and it didnt make a difference. Do you have another suggestion? Luna
     
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    What about Tangster's suggestion of using Borate?
     
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    But thats just a band aid fix, I wanted to know why my ph was an issue. Luna
     
  10. Tangster

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    Hey Buddy when you test for the ph how are you testing for it ? with a Liquid test or a meter ? then what time of day are you testing it ? About the same time of day every test ? To eliminate the co2 problem take a glass full and put it out side and add a air stone for a few hrs then test that glass water Ph. And borate is more then a patch actual borate is one of a few elements that can actually and does actually evaporate into the atmosphere from the oceans waters , I think its like 700 million tons a yr its estimated to evaporate off of the oceans , Then that helps to keep rain at a certain Ph and I learned the other day that also helps to off set the acidic effects of places like the Rain forest from becoming so acidic that it will not support plant life . Borate is a very important element in the air and water.

    I'll recheck the number of tonnage of evapotation into the atmosphere from the world oceans .. Memory ain't what it used to be :)
     
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    Hey Tangster, I have a Pinpoint PH monitor and I look at the monitor every now and then. I know that PH flucuates during the day and night. I clean the probe every day and calibrate the monitor every 6 months. I also use the API PH test kit to make sure the monitor is working correctly. I placed an air pump outside for 4 weeks and didnt make a difference. I have not tried the glass of water with an air stone yet, but I will soon. What are you thinking? Luna
     
  12. Tangster

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    Just trying to eliminate any gas exchange issues , Is this the older tank ? I hate to keep beating this drum ? But have had many tanks to reach that magic number of around 10 to 12 yrs old I found that the rocks and even good aragonite sand would be come totally exhausted , And they being somewhat low in the ability to actually release Carbonates into solution then they would bind with CO2 and then form Hydrochloric Acid , I'd have to look at some older notes to be sure I have my acids correct ? I know how people love to jump on me when I misstate a name LOL , The borates will off set that naturally and not affect the DKH ,Thats their job in nature . Most all salt lack it and not many commercial buffers add enough . They all add it but most tend to lean towards using soda ash its cheaper and will bump up the PH also But unlike the borate it will not hold it as steady. Also if the buffer you are using has a lot of just plain Bicarbonate's that will also work to lower the ph. Its the same way with the CO2 and acids . And I'll also add if you want to simply influence the Ph upwardly ? Just get some borate and add it to the system 2 oz of dry powder borate will pull up a 100 gals from 8.0 to right at 8.1 maybe depending on the bio load . Buts thats a good starting average ..
     
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