Will this be overcrowded?

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  1. jkh.tangs

    jkh.tangs Plankton

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    I will be upgrading my current tank (corner hexagon 100 gal) to a 125 gal rectangle 60x18x24.

    I currently have:
    1 Dejardini Sailfin Tang ~ 2"
    1 Blue Hippo Tang ~ 1"
    1 Copperband Butterfly ~ 2-3"
    1 Spotted Mandarin
    1 Royal Gramma
    1 Algae Eating Blenny
    1 Firefish Goby
    A pair of clowns hosting anemone.

    Everyone is doing great in what we have now, there is plenty of room and hiding places. I just want to get a rectangle tank.

    Would it be too much to add:
    1 Powder Blue Tang ~ 2"
    1 Yellow Tang ~ 1" OR Lemon Peel Angel
    1 Flame Angel ~ 1"
    5-6 chromis ( I would like a school~)
    and a paired watchmen goby and pistol shrimp

    **I'm willing to give the firefish, blenny, and royal gramma to a good friend if it means I can get these new fish.**

    Thanks
     
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  3. jimmy_beaner

    jimmy_beaner Teardrop Maxima Clam

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    I'm by no means an expert, but it looks like you're adding 25 gallons... and a host of fish including 2 tangs and a set of schooling fish. If you consider yourself maxed out now, I'm not sure how 25 more gallons would provide the room for the new additions.
     
  4. jkh.tangs

    jkh.tangs Plankton

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    I don't really consider myself maxed out now. All the fish have plenty of swimming room. I just uploaded some pictures of my current tank to my profile.
     
  5. Marshall O

    Marshall O Giant Squid

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    Well my thoughts are that both the Blue Hippo & Sailfin are going to outgrow the new tank (both need 180+ when full grown). So if those are removed, then I think the other adds should be fine! However stay away from adding 2 dwarf angels, so I guess I would go with the Yellow Tang over the Lemonpeel. Also, the fish you mentioned possibly re-homing would all be fine in a much smaller tank, so you would really not be doing much there. So I vote keep your stock, re-home the larger tangs, and get the others you want.
     
  6. Camkha1234

    Camkha1234 Great Blue Whale

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    +1 To all of this
     
  7. ingtar_shinowa

    ingtar_shinowa Giant Squid

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    I wouldn't keep any but the smallest of tangs in a 4 foot tank, even a 125. I think you will see an increase of stress related disease and aggression with that stocking plan as time goes on. I would 265 for similar dimensions with all those tangs.
     
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  9. jkh.tangs

    jkh.tangs Plankton

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    Marshall O,

    I understand that the sailfin will out grow, and he is getting big fast. My husband and I have discussed finding him a bigger home, but the hippo tang is pretty small, and not growing fast at all. Do you think re-homing the sailfin and keeping the hippo until she gets a little bigger would be ok?
     
  10. ingtar_shinowa

    ingtar_shinowa Giant Squid

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    Hippo Tangs are very unacceptable to HLLE. Often times you will see cracks or splotches dark in color when stress from the tank begins to manifest.
     
  11. Marshall O

    Marshall O Giant Squid

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    What Alex said. My personal opinion is to never buy a fish unless you already have the tank to support it when fully grown. What happens all to often is people have the best intentions to either upgrade tank size or re-home when the time comes. A lot of times what happens is you become attached to the fish (especially if you have children) and have no means to upgrade. Even though the fish is now fully grown and too large, it appears to be fine and so nothing is done. This is not fair to the fish IMO and can lead to an early demise, aggression with other fish, or disease that will spread through the tank.

    Again, just my thoughts. There are so many good options for your tank I would personally re-home him now before you get too attached.
     
  12. Flaring Afro

    Flaring Afro Purple Spiny Lobster

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    That and not that many people actually have tanks big enough for the full grown fish, but a ton are sold to people that think they will just magically give it a good home later. It's like buying a puppy from a puppy mill saying you'll just give it to a shelter when it's full grown.